Sunday, September 28, 2008

Motorola Yuva A810 review

Having lost my beloved motorola A1200 aka MotoMing phone to a fraud, I had to go on the hunt for a new phone. After much research and internet chat board debate I finalized two models the Motorokr E6 and the HTC Gene P3400i.They were both very competitively priced but the Gene beat the Motophone in almost every aspect. Bigger screen faster processor, ram and definitely a more user friendly OS, if only more vulnerable. When we went to the shop to buy the HTC, I noticed two aspects which turned me off from the phone permanently.Being the cheapest of the HTC models, its build was quite flimsy. I was afraid I would break it within the first month itself.The other problem was the SD card slot on the top had NO COVER! So what you had was a gaping hole on the top where water, moisture could get in.I have no idea why HTC made such a mistake when a rubber stopper cover is so cheap and effective. Anyway, long story short, the shop keeper then showed me the Moto Yuva A810, a derivative brother of the motorokr E6 and the latest model. In fact after having researched new phones for a week i hadnt even seen photos of it anywhere. But it was very competetively priced. At 7450 (approx 160$) it looked like a steal.
Now that I have used the phone for a good 24 hours, how is it? Read the first ever english review of the A810 to find out-


Specs
The following are the specs of the Motorola Yuva A810

General 2G Network Quad band
Announced 2008, June
Size Dimensions 105 x 51 x 14 mm
Weight 100 g
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 256K colors
Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.2 inches
- Handwriting recognition
Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3
Customization Download
Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook Yes, Photo call
Call records 30 dialed, 30 received, 30 missed calls
Card slot microSD (TransFlash), up to 2 GB, buy memory
Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
HSCSD No
EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps
3G No
WLAN No
Bluetooth Yes, v1.2 with A2DP
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0
Features Messaging SMS, MMS, Email
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML (Opera v8.5)
Games Yes
Colors Excellent Black and White Shang-chi
Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels, video
- Java MIDP 2.0
- Stereo FM radio
- MP3/WAV/WMA/AAC+ player
- 3.5 mm audio output jack
- Voice memo
- Built-in handsfree
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 910 mAh
Stand-by Up to 150 h
Talk time Up to 4 h


As you can see, the Phone has a smaller screen than the Ming and the E6, smaller by approximately 0.2 inches. And don't be fooled by the tri-band listing in other websites, the India release model of the A810 is quad band.




Looks
Here are the different views of the phone. I don't know about you, but Motorola surely isn't going to win any awards with this design. It's functional and spartan and although the photos might make the blue outline seem okay but in person it looks a tad tacky. Still, without it it would have looked too empty. Below the touch screen there are 3 buttons. In the middle is the 5 way direction joystick. To the left is the cancel/switch off/switch on button and to the right is the select button, just in case you don't want to use the touchscreen. The left side of the phone sees the volume control and above that the 3.5 mm headset jack. On the top is the locking mechanism which has to be pressed to open the back of the phone. To the right side is the usb port which is used to charge the phone and connect to the PC. Below that is the Camera button followed by the locking key, which when slid up locks the phone and when slid down opens it up.
The rest of the looks of the camera is pretty clear from the pictures.


Screen
The screen is slightly smaller (0.2 inches to be exact) than the E6 and the rokr screens, but it looks sharp. The images appeared crystal clear, possibly even sharper than the ming. I realize this shouldn't be mentioned here, but in the ming if the photos used were more or less around the same size, it would fit most of the photo, chopping out a part of it. Here it fits the entire image, which is good, but the resizing leaves space either on the top/bottom or the sides.which shows up as white bars.



Calls messaging and other features.
I made Local , STD and International calls and the reception and voice clarity was pretty good. One major glitch, one of the few crippling things about this revamped OS (or is it old? i don't know) was when I sent queries to the network, like showing an on screen balance. The phone just stuck to the requesting screen and you could see the cursor blinking on the screen behind it , after quite a while a message box appears but its blank. I tried it quite a few times, with 2 different networks and still the problem persisted.
Overall the new look of the OS essentially means fancier icons, in reality it is more or less the same as the ming or the E6. Although I found the response time to be much slower than the ming, which was my previous phone. Even the simplest tasks , like opening the alarm clock took a good 2.5 seconds. Don't get me wrong, the ming was slow too, but this was frustrating. I thought that this was because of the 2gb memory card I had put in, so I changed it and put in a 512 mb card to check if the response became faster( this has been known to happen with smart phones, putting in their max capacity memory card sometimes slows it down). But sadly this had nothing to do with the memory card, even with the 512 mb completely blank card, it took exactly the same time to open up each and every icon. Again my gut instinct tells me that this is some fatal flaw in the OS. On the other hand, strangely, changing the color scheme of the phone, something that took the ming nearly 8-11 seconds to do, happened instantly each and every time with this phone.It was blazing fast in this aspect.The start up and shut down menu also has gone through some changes and it looks fancier.But how do these things matter when in the real performance as a touchscreen phone it is slow?


Music and Video
The media player and video player are separate now and its not real player anymore. Playback was quite fine, but a few minor issues- the volume control is a step up control, meaning it increases by about 12% for every mark on the volume level. If the real player could have a progressive control, then why couldn't the supposedly new player have this?
The earphones given with this handset is so bad that i cant even begin to talk about it. The sound wasn't good in this. I attached my isound DJ monitoring headphone to the phone and listened to quite a of tracks. Music playback was quite good , at least for a non audiophile like me it was quite satisfactory. Still, I strongly recommend people should factor in buying another headset to enjoy music on this phone. The Creative EP 630 is highly recommended, it comes with noise isolation.
As for the video playback it was decent,but it does not support real media files anymore.
The phone has only played mp4 and 3gp videos until now, and i sincerely hope that this is not what motorola had in mind when they were advertising this as a media phone. Maybe an update will solve that?

Other changes in the phone include having a button for connecting to the computer, which means that just attaching the wire wont do, you have to activate it from the phone itself.The phone also has additional icons from yatra.com ,presssmart and google , but I couldn't check how good its internet connection was since my GPRS wasn't activated yet. The phone also has EDGE.

Photo Editor
The photo editor was quite disappointing. when you open a large file, it opens in the actual size and you cant resize it to fit the screen with the editing options available. This is highly irritating, specially since the 3 year old motoming had this feature.I cant understand why motorola chose not to include this. The open with option has been changed to edit, and in most cases ,i.e, any file above 110 kb the editing software refuses to open saying its too big. I can understand that motorola needed to downscale the phone, but this is ridiculous. The ming could easily open upto 250kb files.


The phones auto lock feature is a bit weird. And from what i read online it seems to be similar to the rokr. With the ming you could arrange it so that it asks for a password when you want to unlock it. But in this phone it can be opened with the slide to unlock key. So basically its not secure. The only time it asks for a code is when you restart the phone. I cant say i am happy with this. But then again, other phones have this feature, so i can only assume its popular.

Games
The phone has something called Krishcricket, which is basically a set of cricket games, which i found to be quite boring.

Camera & Video
My initial impression was that the camera was lightyears ahead of the ming, but now i am not so sure. I will try posting some images so you can have a comparative idea as to how good they are, i will post some more photos as the week progresses. I have 2 cameras, so a camera phone was not a priority for me. But it seems to take decent photos, so I am satisfied. One thing though, the live preview on this phone seems to be lagging behind , it feels choppy.The ming had a slight lag too,but this is more noticeable. And it takes much longer to save an image. The video is decent, I felt it was more or less at par with videos taken by the ming.

Conclusion
The phone is aimed for people who want a smart phone on a tight budget. Understandably, motorola had to make compromises to fit it into a lesser budget. Therefore the smaller screen. But motorola seems to have jumped into the fray without being fully prepared for this. The OS has quite a few flaws, and the reaction time to every instruction can be irritating.
But from what little i could find out, the configuration is around the same as the ming, and it shouldn't be slow. I blame the OS for this. Even though the OS looks snazzy, it has problems. It will need a LOT of tweaking.

Some minor complaints. So many people on their own have designed skins and themes for the linux based phones, motorola couldn't be inspired by them? A phone aimed to be a media/fun phone it still has only 3 color schemes, black, blue and white(the same as the ming). Quite disappointing. A media phone should allow for some level of customization, and this was not satisfactory. But wait! It gets better. I tried the installation cd which would update the motorola software. But the software didn't even recognize the phone! A quick check on the motorola website revealed that this phone wasn't even on their website yet.This is just sloppy. The software therefore couldn't find any updates because they hadn't even included it.
Starting the Motorola phone tools software also caused problems, every time it reached 100% it stuck there,but I am willing to concede it might be a problem with my computer.I will try it on another computer and post if i get a favorable response. The price tag makes this phone a steal yes, but I don't think this is the right time to buy this phone. Its very new and it definitely needs some updates in its OS.
If this is the phone you want, then wait a while, keep checking the motorolafans and motorola website. While on the surface level this phone might be snazzy, but take it from me, a motorola fan,the company should have done some more work on this phone. Let's hope motorola fixes these issues soon. But if the time lags arn't an issue for you, then this is a good phone. As for me, if this is indeed an OS issue, I hope that Motorola quickly releases an update which solves this.
I hope this review was helpful for you, I realize this is hardly a 100% proffessional review but I have tried to make it as comprehensive as possible.
Lastly, some comparative shots of photos taken by the A810 and the nokia 3500c
Nokia



A810

42 Comments:

Blogger Ankit Gokani said...

well i wanted to buy the phone now so are the problems u were talking of solved waiting for ur reply my email id is ankitgokani@yahoo.com plz do leme know i dont have a phone now and dis looks good

11:21 AM  
Blogger Aditya Saraogi said...

tamal..
how much time do you have on your hands? Your blogs are way too long.

I like the camera comparision in the end. couldnt go thru the entire novel

9:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to buy this phone. I've a bsic nokia model & want to upgrade on this one. Thnx for your suggestion on headset. Do u have any idea how much it costs? Anyways i think the phone fits my bill. Touchscreen,good music & video. Wat about its battery life? do u need to charge often? Please reply on mail id abhisheklm@rediffmail.com.

3:46 PM  
Blogger arthpatel25 said...

dude i bought this last week
just help me out installing new skins n pkg applications in this phone plsss

10:24 PM  
Blogger Tamal said...

installing pkg applications is the same as motoming and motorokr phones. what i suggest is go to motorolafans.com, and see the tutorials there.
But i would strongly recommend you not try installin any skins, because the os has gone through slight changes and if you install skins for the ming or the rokr on this phone it might do some damage.

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell us about battery life & overall experiace is good one /How is FM reception & headphone/speaker sound


i u can sumol123@gmail.com my mail id for ur comments

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice review mate....if you say this isnt detailed..then you should see some of my reviews on my blog...great work....very informative

7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

even i have confusion which one to choose E6 or A810 ? Give me suggestions which one should i go for ? i need touchscreen+music, around 10k is my budget. tell abt the battery life of A810. or shall i buy E6 ?

10:28 AM  
Blogger satya said...

even i wanted to buy this or E6 plsssss suggest me....which one is preferrable as this is latest one and E6 is SD compatible compared to A810.

2:19 PM  
Blogger Tamal said...

from what i know, the e6 even though is outdates does not have the same problems that the A810 has, like i have mentioned before, motorola has been of no help regarding solving the glitches in the OS. But if you have a budget of 10k you could just forget motorola and look into HTC phones.

11:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great review. I agree Motorola hasn't done a thorough job, and should have thoughts a few things better.

I bought this phone 3 weeks back. Switched from Nokia 6030. It doesn't have ease of use as Nokia, but is a very interesting smartphone with a touchscreen, handwriting recognition (you can write messages not) and a incredible price.

The joystick hardly serves much purpose. Invariably one needs to use the stylus (whereas it should be only for writing). The joystick can be used only for on screen objects. So you will need to use two hands for almost everything.

The 'calls' function works very funnily. I have still not learn't what it will show. You have to use the stylus to go back one step.

On the issue of Motorola Phone Tools update, I also got stuck initially, and later with Help found out that you need activate 'PC connection' through 'Modem' option and not 'USB Mass storage' ?! -- strange, but it works very well now.

Speaker phone isn't too good. Battery life -- one day if you are heavy user, otherwise 2 days.

However no regrets -- great fun phone and at great value for money smartphone. In a couple of years with 3G all phones are likely to get obsolete, and there is no point in spending too much. Handwriting recognition is great -- the QWERTY keyboard or normal key pads are irritating. Good looks, though the blue line doesn't go well. I need to get into learning how to tweak the phones.

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great review!!!!!!
I wanted to have a comparison between a810 and Ericson W350i.
I am a great audiophile so everyone's whom I've been talking to have suggested me ERICSSON W350i.

What would you suggest??

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great review!!!!!!
I wanted to have a comparison between a810 and Ericson W350i.
I am a great audiophile so everyone's whom I've been talking to have suggested me ERICSSON W350i.

What would you suggest??
MY id -- rohang_1991@rediffmail.com

11:43 AM  
Blogger chinthu said...

I bought this fone recently..
But it is having very low volume even through earphones..
I couldnt find any option to see video in full screen..
Waiting for any mods to increase the volume ...

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanx for such a good review, it was very informative.

i would like to ask one thing, does the motoyuva a810 (this one released in india) supports handwrting recognition for chinese language?

(i can practice my chinese if it does :-))

thanx a lot, could u pleae post a comment here answering my quesstion ?

2:20 AM  
Blogger Tamal said...

i checked the phone and it seems to support only english for handwriting recognition, so no, you wont get to practice your chinese...
also i have tested this phones camera with a lot of phones, and its immensely impressive, even compared to the 20k nokia E71 3.2 mp camera phone.

5:18 PM  
Blogger Mandar Vaze said...

Nice Review, Quite detailed too.

What I like about ming is the cover that also acts as ear-piece when answering the calls. I haven't seen that feature in any of the other phones, motorola or otherwise.

From the TV Advt, it doesn't look like moto is planning to place this as smart phone. It looks like they want to push this as touchscreen phone on the budget. Seems like it fits that profile.

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanx Tamal for ur reply, i just baught this phone and found the same. i will try to sort this out by talking with their support.

but even if its unchangeable, i m hoping to find some other way to continue practicing at least reading - it has quite some features.

:-)

11:09 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Hey Buddy
Loved ur take
I bought this one a few days back
and i am quite ok with it
only problem is the volume (but if you like to listen at low volume it more than enough)

I also face the problem wile using MPT, but you need to activate 'PC connection' through 'Modem' option and not 'USB Mass storage'.....

I am looking for some ways to increase the volume and to uninstalls some of the functions as Yatra and Motomusic......

And yes one more thing
yesterday i called AIRTEL office for GPRS service, they told me this model is not supporting their GPRS........

Now what to do????

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is the phone having fm recording feature
is it slow or fast can u suggest me a nice fone that comes at 7k


plz reply sooon

3:11 PM  
Blogger Navin Rai said...

Hi Tamal. Thanks for a good review.
I have some points regarding this phone, Can you please find out and answer for me.
1. Does this phone supports document reading viz. Word and XLS or PDF files. Can we download an attachment from email and read it? Is some way we can install such application.
2.How is the net-browser and email part in this phone addressed.
Please advice..
Navin Rai

4:38 PM  
Blogger Tamal said...

THIS REPLY IS FOR THE LAST FEW QUERIES-
FOR ANYONE FINDING THE VOLUME TO BE TOO LOW- This is a problem with the phone OS and the headset provided isnt good either.For music listening experience, buy the creative ep 630 earphone, the volume in that is VERY IMPRESSIVE. for increasing handset volume, go to motorolafans website and post there asking if anyone has used the applications of the ming or rokr on this phone, they have softwares to increase volumes, they just havnt tested on this phone to my knowledge yet.
I tested my phone with the airtel unlimited internet connection and browsed it automatically...it was a friend's no, so i dont remember exactly what settings i did. as far as i remember, you have to select the gateway website, airtel has two, choose the 2nd option, and you should have no problems.
I dont know about word, but it can read text files, and it can read pdfs.
as for uninstalling motomusic and yatra features, unfortunately i have no idea how to do that...my advise is to look up motorolafans to see if anyone has done it successfully...dont toy with your phone to this extent without knowing the risks, or you might end up with a dead handset.
the phone according to me was slow, but only compared to costlier touchscreen phones. Keep in mind, i even used a 30k HTC TOUCH CRUISE phone and even that had a slight response time lag. For the budget this is a decent offering.Dont expect an iphone.
You cant record from fm, but you can record voice calls. If you want to find out more for any software edits to record fm, again, take a peek in motorolafans.
Hope this helps.

7:06 AM  
Blogger Navin Rai said...

Hi Tamal. Thanks for your reply. But can you please investigate whether this phone can actually open MS Excel and Word files. Are you sure it can read PDF files? What about the ring tone volume and quality. Signal reception and talk quality. Anyway i must congratulate you for this single blogging thread over the net abt A810.

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bhai saab aap ne is model ke saare advantaje bataye kya aap ne ye model us kiya hai
maine last week ye divice moto yuva a810 kharida lekin ab pachata raha hu q ki iska bettry back itana kam hai ki ab mujhe hamesha charjer se lagaye rakhana padhata hai
iska bettry back up sirf 4 ghante ka hai matlab kuch call karane ke baad ye phir charge karana pachata hai
agar koi acha solution ho to batana
mera mail id moss_sayyed@rediff.com

11:40 PM  
Blogger Tamal said...

ring volumes arnt that great, in a noisy environment it wont stand out. call clarity has been consistently good.
signal reception is also quite good.
as for excel, no. word i havnt had a chance to try.
but yes pdfs it opens.

6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tamal, I was unable to open pdf files. Not sure why. Also I understand Mrokr E6 can read Word, Excel, Pdf files. Is there any way this document viewer application can be transferred to A810 ? Thanks

12:09 AM  
Blogger Tamal said...

Guys, read my previous posts before you ask questions, because i have answered most of these questions before. For any query on whether software that could have been added on the ming and the rokr, can be used on the A810, go to motorolafans and search if anyone has tried it. If you try to experiment with your phone, you should understand the risks. If you put in a non tested software, you risk destroying your phone. I have not installed any new softwares because i dont want to risk it until i know for sure other people have done it safely. So i dont know if adding the software will work,or burn your phone.

10:29 PM  
Blogger maddy said...

hii...i wanted 2 buy dis model...bt i want 2 kno if it supports pdf files...nd heard its gt some probs vth motorola fone tools....well! can u clarify dese??

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi tamal, thnkx for the review.

i want to know which type of application files it wil support. sis or jar ??

my id : prathipgv@yahoo.com

7:46 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Hey buddy very nice review... i too bot a YUva phone 2 weeks back as my L9 got stolen, the ZN200, a person who has used L9 will never like it.. there are some good parts though... anyways iv switched to a new L9 now...

n u said ur phone wasn recognized on moto tools... i too faced the same issue. thr rpob was in phone> Menu>settings>USB settings> there are two options (on Zn200) USB Mass storage or USB Modem.. only if u select USB modem the moto tools will recognize the phone.. try it..

11:34 PM  
Blogger Rajesh said...

I am using Motoyuva A810. If you need to connect to GPRS and have a BSNL connection. Just go to BSNL site and download the MS Word file and follow the steps. You need to manually enter the settings. I am from Andhra Pradesh. So, I went to ap.bsnl.co.in. My GPRS connection is ok now

11:02 AM  
Blogger HARSHA said...

Hi Thanks For The Review But The Cam Pictures You Are Given Not A810 Cam Pictures Please Change And Give Moto a810 Cam Pictures

8:54 AM  
Blogger saksham said...

hiiiiiiii i wanted to know what is the price of moto yuya A810 and does the touch screen work well. plz mail me to sakshamrocks18@gmail.com

12:40 PM  
Blogger WhoAmI said...

Hi Tamal,
Appreciate your feedback on battery life. Planning to buy this phone, but battery life is a major factor.

Thanks,
Maninder

11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude i wanted ask has the problems been solved now....coz i am almost ready to buy it.......could u please reply......reply me at subhash.rao3@gmail.com

3:46 PM  
Blogger Gangadharan said...

hi Tamal

now the price of A810 has been reduced to 5000. is there any update in firmware now i have checked the moto site but currently no update ..
i am going to buy A810 kindly reply me with your firmware version

11:43 AM  
Anonymous sugithanandan said...

Hi Guys….I found the Gprs Settings for A810(Aircel)…First Please go to the setup and select DataNetwork..Then select a new profile and Profile name Is AO(Capital Important) and then Set the Wap(Main Gateway And Port is 0.0.0.0 and 0 respectivly).And Select Gprs settings then set the Access Point Name as like “aircelgprs.pr” (All in Small letter & avoid the inverted Commas.Please Dont change anything in Gateway..Keep like 0.0.0.0 and port as 0.Then selsct the Homepage Settings And set like “http://aircelthrills/operator/aircelwap”(type same like this without inverted commas)…Then switch off and remove the sim foe 1 min then turn on…Definately It ll work….If not so mail to my id….

6:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought A810 last week for Rs 4250. Battry is very bad....doesn't even stand for 1 day even if we speak very less..

9:14 PM  
Blogger Gopi Aravind said...

Hey Tamal,

Great review! I recently started a website dedicated to modding the Motorola A810...
Do check it out.

http://www.motoa810.co.cc

3:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi this is pradeep from bangalore .A using the same phone (motoyuva a 810)by mistake i uninstall the cricket game .... please tell me how to re install that game ... if u have any link to download this game please this

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi this is pradeep from bangalore .Am using the same phone (motoyuva a 810)by mistake i uninstall the cricket game .... please tell me how to re install that game ... if u have any link to download this game please send this

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can any one please advise me how to increase the duration of continuous video recording, I can only do maximum of 60 min per recording even I hv put in a bigger memory card, if I want to record say 140minute, I would have to do 60+60+20, 3 non-continuous recording......thx

9:49 AM  

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